. >> when is the next election, becky? >> four years. >> why does he need to pump up his base and go on the road? >> go to charlotte and say, fairness and then they run to try to beat the tax man, which is -- he is doing his job as a corporate executive. >> shame on them. i can't even talk about it anymore. >> joining our panel is msnbc contributor, ari melber. an author of the report about how the campaign tried to turn its grass roots network into a governing force in the president's first term. nice to have you with us. >> despite the drama that it is causing, the president is going directly to the folks. this is something they were criticized on between '08 and 2012. what's it going to look like now? is the president going to be able to use enter base? i think it depends on what they ask them to do. the report that i wrote interviewed dozens of ofa activists, talked to campaign staff and people on capitol hill in both parties. what i found was that they became basically a single issue group around health care, which wa